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  "Forgive Us Our Trespasses/Debts"...

  by AGuest in

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  because (1) they belie the (new) covenant to which they claim to be a party; they do this because they don't know/understand the terms of that new covenant, the greatest of which is love; (2) they don't know the term love, because they lack two of its elements, mercy and forgiveness; (3) they don't understand what it means to "forgive," as don't most of earthling man.. to "forgive," dear ones, means to let go of a debt before it is even owed: forgive.

  forgive the interest.

  indeed, forgive the entire debt, if you can?

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  Amen
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  France event ??

  by lancelink in

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  this message was emailed to me today,,.

  historic event in france!!!!!!.

  we would like to share with you an experience related by .

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  Does EPO contain blood fractions?( wiki-pedia)

  While erythropoietin itself is not a blood product, some brands of the synthetic form do have a very small amount of a blood fraction added to them. The epoetin-alfa formulation (Epogen®, Procrit®) contains 2.5 mg human serum albumin. The albumin first prevents the pharmaceutical from sticking to the vial, and then acts as a carrier molecule to help the EPO remain in the bloodstream until it reaches its destination at the bone marrow.

  Two formulations of Eprex®, one of which replaces albumin with polysorbate as a stabilizer, are available in Canada and other countries. [1] Recormon® is also albumin-free, with polysorbate being the stabilizer. [1] Aranesp® comes in two formulations, one contains albumin; the other is albumin-free. [1]

  I wonder which one they used.

  I know that this is very expensive stuff. In Canada to get 6 vials of 0.4ml. is $510.00C. At a vial a day that can add up fast. I can take from 2 to 6 weeks to work.(from my experience)

  Did the Bethel pick up the tab? When my Family member needed it they certainly didn't offer to pay. But they did supply a hemotologist who prescribed it over the phone. Nice Eh?
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  Serious Omissions in New Watchtower Book

  by metatron in

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  the society's latest book, "bearing thorough witness about god's kingdom" contains two serious omissions.. first, on page 105, it offers an outright lie about the organization and the bible.

  "they do not force the scriptures to fit their views.

  impartial observers have recognized this fact.

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  I think it is safe to say that the "older men" were using this book to focus on the importance of obediance. It seems as if they didn't want to disect these particular scriptures(Acts 15: 22-29) but rather to point out how "harmony and belief of action prevail among Jehovah's Witnesses today.....Principally, the unity results from the clear and decisive direction that Jesus Christ provides through the faithful and discreet slave." (aka governing body)

  This Book is not about doctrine. It is about Obediance. Total reliance on the interpretation of scripture as seen by the Governing Body.

  This book will be studied in the bookstudy I'm sure. It is exactly what the "sheep" need. Anyone who is beginning to think on their own will be Rebrainwashed into thinking that they are powerless without the supreme guidance of the GB. And while studying these passages they will disect the scripture. The question for para. 13b asks," What good was accomplished by sending a letter from the governing body?"

  If I was answering as a good witness I would say " We as Jehovah's people learned how we can receive Jehovah's blessings and favor. Namely abstain from things sacrificed to idols and blood and fornication."

  They can forsee how the average witness will feel when reading it because all the hints have been given and indoctrinated mindwork has already been done.
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  Songs that Seem to Celebrate Leaving the WTS

  by blondie in

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  well, i heard some people talkin?

  just the other day.

  and they said you were gonna put me on a shelf.

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  I love that Cat stevens song. I had never heard it before. Thanks Restrangled

  And the goo doo dolls song was amazing; the lines

  But if you could hide beside me
  Maybe for a while
  And I won't tell no one your name
  And I won't tell em' your name

  make me think of this forum (or support group) whatever you call it.

  Thanks guys
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  PLEASE- I need the Awake article on Celebrating Anniversaries

  by annalice in

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  does anyone have a copy of the awake that has an article about celebrations and anniversaries?

  i need to be able to get a download of it, not just re-typed but an actual photo copy of the page.

  you know how jw's are if they dont see it in its original format they will say that it was added to or copied wrong.

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  w9810/15pp.30-31QuestionsFromReaders

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  ofJehovah’sWitnessesobserveweddinganniversaries.Abirthdayisananniversaryofwhenyouwereborn.Sowhycelebrateweddinganniversariesandnotbirthday

  anniversaries?

  Frankly, there is no need for a Christian to celebrate either. Still, that does not mean that the two are equal in import or that Christians must view the former (wedding anniversaries) as they do birthday celebrations.

  As noted, it can be said that both are anniversaries because an "anniversary" is ‘the annual recurrence of a date marking some event.’ It could be an anniversary of any event—the day you had an automobile accident, saw an eclipse of the moon, went swimming with your family, and so on. It is clear that Christians do not turn every "anniversary" into a special day or have a party to commemorate it. One should consider the aspects of an event and decide what is fitting.

  For example, God specifically instructed the Israelites to celebrate annually the day when his angel passed over the houses of the Israelites in Egypt and the resulting exodus of his people in 1513 B.C.E. (Exodus 12:14) When Jews, including Jesus, subsequently commemorated the anniversary of that event, it was in obedience to God’s direction, and they did not do so with a party or with gift-giving. The Jews also treated as special the anniversary of the rededication of the temple. Though commemorating this historical event was not commanded in the Bible, John 10:22, 23 suggests that Jesus was not critical of its being done. Finally, Christians have a special meeting on the anniversary of Jesus’ death. Of course, this is done out of obedience to a clear command found in God’s Word.—Luke 22:19, 20.

  What about wedding anniversaries? In some lands it is common for husband and wife to take note of the anniversary of their entering the marital state, an arrangement that God originated. (Genesis 2:18-24; Matthew 19:4-6) Certainly, the Bible does not put marriage in a bad light. Jesus both attended a marriage celebration and contributed to the pleasure of the occasion.—John 2:1-11.

  It thus would not be strange that a couple might on their wedding anniversary take time to reflect on the joyfulness of that event and on their resolve to work for success as a couple. Whether they focus on this happy occasion in private, just as a couple, or they have a few relatives or close friends with them would be for them to decide. The occasion should not become a mere excuse for a large social gathering. On this occasion Christians would want to be guided by the principles that apply every day of their lives. So whether one takes note of a wedding anniversary or not is a personal matter.—Romans 13:13, 14.

  What, though, about taking special note of a birthday? Do we have any indications from the Bible about such an anniversary?

  Well, early in this century, Bible Students, as Jehovah’s Witnesses were then known, did take note of birthdays. Many of them kept small books called DailyHeavenlyManna. These contained a Bible text for each day, and many Christians put a tiny photograph on the pages corresponding to the birthdays of fellow Bible Students. Also, TheWatchTower of February 15, 1909, related that at a convention in Jacksonville, Florida, U.S.A., Brother Russell, then president of the Society, was ushered onto the platform. Why? He was given a surprise birthday present of some boxes of grapefruit, pineapples, and oranges. That gives us a glimpse of the past. To put matters in their context, recall that during that period, Bible Students also commemorated December 25 as the anniversary of Jesus’ birth, or birthday. It was even customary to have Christmas dinner at the Brooklyn headquarters.

  Of course, since then God’s people have grown spiritually in many respects. In the 1920’s increased light of truth enabled them to see the following:

  Jesus was not born on December 25, a date linked to pagan religion. The Bible directs us to commemorate the date of Jesus’ death, not the anniversary of his or anyone else’s birth. Doing so accords with Ecclesiastes 7:1 and the fact that how a faithful person’s life turns out is more important than the day of his birth. The Bible has no record that any faithful servant celebrated his birthday. It records birthday celebrations of pagans, linking these occasions with cruel acts. Let us get the background of those birthday anniversaries.

  The first is the birthday of the Pharaoh in Joseph’s day. (Genesis 40:20-23) In this regard, the article on birthdays in Hastings’ EncyclopædiaofReligionandEthics begins: "The custom of commemorating the day of birth is connected, in its form, with the reckoning of time, and, in its content, with certain primitive religious principles." Later, the encyclopedia quotes Egyptologist Sir J. Gardner Wilkinson, who wrote: "Every Egyptian attached much importance to the day, and even to the hour of his birth; and it is probable that, as in Persia, each individual kept his birthday with great rejoicings, welcoming his friends with all the amusements of society, and a more than usual profusion of the delicacies of the table."

  Another birthday celebration mentioned in the Bible is Herod’s, at which John the Baptist was beheaded. (Matthew 14:6-10) TheInternationalStandardBibleEncyclopedia (1979 edition) provides this insight: "The pre-Hellenistic Greeks celebrated the birthdays of gods and prominent men. G[ree]k genéthlia designated these celebrations, while genésia meant a celebration commemorative of the birthday of a deceased important individual. In 2 Macc[abees] 6:7 we find reference to a monthly genéthlia of Antiochus IV, during which the Jews were forced to ‘partake of the sacrifices.’ . . . When Herod celebrated his birthday he was acting in accord with a Hellenistic custom; there is no evidence for the celebration of birthdays in Israel in pre-Hellenistic times."

  Admittedly, true Christians today are not preoccupied with the roots and possible ancient religious connections of every practice or custom, but neither are they inclined to ignore pointed indications that do exist in God’s Word. This includes that the only birthday celebrations of Biblical record are of pagans and linked to instances of cruelty. Hence, the Scriptures clearly place birthday celebrations in a negative light, a fact that sincere Christians do not disregard.

  Consequently, while it is entirely a private matter if Christians choose to take note of their wedding anniversary, there are good reasons why mature Christians abstain from celebrating birthdays.
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  thanks god for those birth pangs......my jw wifes reply

  by oompa in

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  so we are watchin new christine and there are several child birth scenes of agony......and i tell my wife to be glad she never had to go through that.....she agrees............and i say..."why the hey did god have to make that so awfully painful?".............

  she says "he did not".......i. i say "oh ya he did.".....

  she says "not originally"...... i say "and then he did!".........

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  I was just going to comment on that same line of thought oompa. Never give women a venue to talk about their childbirth experience... they will go on forever. It's very traumatizing and we love to talk about it. LOL
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  thanks god for those birth pangs......my jw wifes reply

  by oompa in

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  so we are watchin new christine and there are several child birth scenes of agony......and i tell my wife to be glad she never had to go through that.....she agrees............and i say..."why the hey did god have to make that so awfully painful?".............

  she says "he did not".......i. i say "oh ya he did.".....

  she says "not originally"...... i say "and then he did!".........

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  I feel your pain restrangled. Same thing two inducements. Fast Furious Labor=Paaaiiiiin
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  Songs that Seem to Celebrate Leaving the WTS

  by blondie in

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  well, i heard some people talkin?

  just the other day.

  and they said you were gonna put me on a shelf.

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  KElly Clarkson... Breakaway

  Grew up in a small town
  And when the rain would fall down
  I'd just stare out my window
  Dreaming of a could be
  And if I'd end up happy
  I would pray (I would pray)
  
  Trying hard to reach out
  But when I'd try to speak out
  Felt like no one could hear me
  Wanted to belong here
  But something felt so wrong here
  So I'd pray (I would pray)
  I could breakaway
  
  [Chorus:]
  I'll spread my wings and I'll learn how to fly
  I'll do what it takes til' I touch the sky
  And I'll make a wish
  Take a chance
  Make a change
  And breakaway
  Out of the darkness and into the sun
  But I won't forget all the ones that I loved
  I'll take a risk
  Take a chance
  Make a change
  And breakaway

  I'll spread my wings
  And I'll learn how to fly
  Though it's not easy to tell you goodbye
  I gotta take a risk
  Take a chance
  Make a change
  And breakaway
  Out of the darkness and into the sun
  But I won't forget the place I come from
  I gotta take a risk
  Take a chance
  Make a change
  And breakaway, breakaway, breakaway
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j9hj-_GtrI
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  thanks god for those birth pangs......my jw wifes reply

  by oompa in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so we are watchin new christine and there are several child birth scenes of agony......and i tell my wife to be glad she never had to go through that.....she agrees............and i say..."why the hey did god have to make that so awfully painful?".............

  she says "he did not".......i. i say "oh ya he did.".....

  she says "not originally"...... i say "and then he did!".........

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  My Grandma thought that if you took drugs during childbirth it was sacrilidge. God intended you to feel the pain so you better take it.

  Well Grandma you would be proud I had two babies and it hurt like hell. I am such a good girl.

  P.s I don't think that is a common belief. Just my own weird family take on Eve's sin
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  Do/did you like to read Daily Text?

  by Albert Einstein in

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  i hated it.

  we actually never really did.. once, on vacations, we were with another family, they prepared food on the table for breakfast .... and then nobody could touch it for some 15 minutes, when daddy was reading daily text and asking childish questions ... family members were raising hands and answering .... we all were hungry... watching the food ... and hoping it will soon be over (i dont mean armageddon, i mean daily text...) i felt just like an idiot..... albert.

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  I prefer to read the cereal container. More interesting morning reading